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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Gay for Homosexuals (A Lesbian Bridesmaid Responds to Accusations of Homophobia)</title>
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		<title>By: Danielle LoPresti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle LoPresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it is true that I do love me some Edwin Decker, I am not beyond disagreeing with you VEHEMENTLY - especially when you&#039;re WRONG! ;)

In this latest brouhaha, you stepped right into the hornet&#039;s nest by using words that no one but another LGBT-er can use, and even then many would invite similar criticism. I know you wore you&#039;re best armor by using your disclaimer sentence, brilliantly clarifying, with idiot-proof wording that you &#039;did not go off on your gay biker tangent to make fun of gay people but to laugh with them&#039;, etc. That sentence was good. And ridiculously clear. 

The problem is that years and years of bullying, suicide, marginalization and murder have involved such language, insomuch as these words are symbols of the very hate and ignorance that cause the violence.

However, all the more reason LGBT-ers, like so many other minority groups, have done so much to take the power out of them by using these epithets themselves and often in a context of humor. But if you&#039;re not one of the marginalized group, you&#039;re treading on &#039;dangerous&#039; ground. 

Or are you? Could you be instead sparking a conversation that could be revolutionary if folks decided to trade in their righteous anger for something MUCH more bold and dare I say useful - a CONVERSATION.

Why *is* it OK for a gay person to use fag but absolutely NOT if a straight person does? Why is it OK for a black person to use nigger but a white person better always say &quot;the N word&#039;? Why *should* we keep language alive and changing instead of banishing some words? Or are all these things the reverse?

When a person has demonstrated time and time again in word and deed that he is on the side of justice and human rights, I think it&#039;s a terrible waste of intelligence to jump up and down pointing the finger at him, when so much could be gained by having a conversation.

How are things going to change? How are people going to be liberated from the silly, pathetic boxes we all draw around ourselves and one another? When we courageously, one subject and one person at a time, reach out with our humanity and TALK with one another. Oh ya....we also gotta listen. Now that can be hard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it is true that I do love me some Edwin Decker, I am not beyond disagreeing with you VEHEMENTLY &#8211; especially when you&#8217;re WRONG! <img src='http://www.eddecker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In this latest brouhaha, you stepped right into the hornet&#8217;s nest by using words that no one but another LGBT-er can use, and even then many would invite similar criticism. I know you wore you&#8217;re best armor by using your disclaimer sentence, brilliantly clarifying, with idiot-proof wording that you &#8216;did not go off on your gay biker tangent to make fun of gay people but to laugh with them&#8217;, etc. That sentence was good. And ridiculously clear. </p>
<p>The problem is that years and years of bullying, suicide, marginalization and murder have involved such language, insomuch as these words are symbols of the very hate and ignorance that cause the violence.</p>
<p>However, all the more reason LGBT-ers, like so many other minority groups, have done so much to take the power out of them by using these epithets themselves and often in a context of humor. But if you&#8217;re not one of the marginalized group, you&#8217;re treading on &#8216;dangerous&#8217; ground. </p>
<p>Or are you? Could you be instead sparking a conversation that could be revolutionary if folks decided to trade in their righteous anger for something MUCH more bold and dare I say useful &#8211; a CONVERSATION.</p>
<p>Why *is* it OK for a gay person to use fag but absolutely NOT if a straight person does? Why is it OK for a black person to use nigger but a white person better always say &#8220;the N word&#8217;? Why *should* we keep language alive and changing instead of banishing some words? Or are all these things the reverse?</p>
<p>When a person has demonstrated time and time again in word and deed that he is on the side of justice and human rights, I think it&#8217;s a terrible waste of intelligence to jump up and down pointing the finger at him, when so much could be gained by having a conversation.</p>
<p>How are things going to change? How are people going to be liberated from the silly, pathetic boxes we all draw around ourselves and one another? When we courageously, one subject and one person at a time, reach out with our humanity and TALK with one another. Oh ya&#8230;.we also gotta listen. Now that can be hard!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricio Pelayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricio Pelayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deck, allow me to offer some additional context as to why many LGBT types (including myself) feel that the term &quot;homosexual&quot; basically blows. Back in the day, as any queer 40+ clearly recalls, mainstream news organizations, including the Cold Sore-era Soviet Union and Tribune newspapers used the term to “out” anyone remotely suspected to be any flavor of fucking other than missionary. From San Diego&#039;s first openly gay candidate, Al Best, to Toni Atkins&#039; first race for the SD City Council, gays and lesbians were referred to in the press as “avowed” or “admitted” homosexuals--as if they had copped to  some horrific crime. Oftentimes, when arrested with other avowed homosexuals at local watering holes, the full names, occupations and addresses of those arrested were printed in the paper. 

In addition, the term “homosexual” has a clinical, nails-on-a-chalkboard association to it, as if it were still considered a lobotomy-worthy aberration in the APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It places the bulk of the emphasis on the &quot;sex,&quot; instead of the emotional bond between two consenting adults, or their penchant for collecting carnival glass, for example. 

Even when style manuals began to discourage use of “homosexual” in favor of &quot;gay” or “LGBT,” it took much poking and prodding by GLAAD and other fledgling gay civil rights orgs (today&#039;s &quot;gay mafia&quot;) to curtail this soft-core queer slandering, in addition to the once rampant use of &quot;sexual preference&quot; (because, hey, who wouldn’t sign up to be lumped in with the Hells Anals). 

So you see, the disdain one feels when being referred to as &quot;homosexual&quot; is still ingrained in many a queer psyche. 
That said, much in the way I have never liked the garish rainbow flag (seems better suited to represent  a Mexican state) I also have never cottoned to &quot;homophobe.&quot; I prefer asshole (the pejorative term, that is), dolt, idiot, redneck or &quot;socially conservative d-bag,&quot; which all get the point across w/o having to make blanket assumptions about a person based on an off-color remark that often warrants further examination or context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deck, allow me to offer some additional context as to why many LGBT types (including myself) feel that the term &#8220;homosexual&#8221; basically blows. Back in the day, as any queer 40+ clearly recalls, mainstream news organizations, including the Cold Sore-era Soviet Union and Tribune newspapers used the term to “out” anyone remotely suspected to be any flavor of fucking other than missionary. From San Diego&#8217;s first openly gay candidate, Al Best, to Toni Atkins&#8217; first race for the SD City Council, gays and lesbians were referred to in the press as “avowed” or “admitted” homosexuals&#8211;as if they had copped to  some horrific crime. Oftentimes, when arrested with other avowed homosexuals at local watering holes, the full names, occupations and addresses of those arrested were printed in the paper. </p>
<p>In addition, the term “homosexual” has a clinical, nails-on-a-chalkboard association to it, as if it were still considered a lobotomy-worthy aberration in the APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It places the bulk of the emphasis on the &#8220;sex,&#8221; instead of the emotional bond between two consenting adults, or their penchant for collecting carnival glass, for example. </p>
<p>Even when style manuals began to discourage use of “homosexual” in favor of &#8220;gay” or “LGBT,” it took much poking and prodding by GLAAD and other fledgling gay civil rights orgs (today&#8217;s &#8220;gay mafia&#8221;) to curtail this soft-core queer slandering, in addition to the once rampant use of &#8220;sexual preference&#8221; (because, hey, who wouldn’t sign up to be lumped in with the Hells Anals). </p>
<p>So you see, the disdain one feels when being referred to as &#8220;homosexual&#8221; is still ingrained in many a queer psyche.<br />
That said, much in the way I have never liked the garish rainbow flag (seems better suited to represent  a Mexican state) I also have never cottoned to &#8220;homophobe.&#8221; I prefer asshole (the pejorative term, that is), dolt, idiot, redneck or &#8220;socially conservative d-bag,&#8221; which all get the point across w/o having to make blanket assumptions about a person based on an off-color remark that often warrants further examination or context.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Dietrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pissed that Cuhulain McBride was funnier than me.</description>
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		<title>By: Cuhulain McBride</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cuhulain McBride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your &quot;Sons of Lame-Archy&quot; column. Though it was not your best work, I agreed with your main points about the biker dudes being loud, stupid and full of unearned confidence. It also occurred to me that writing a weekly column must be a grind. Some weeks you just have to write about a momentary encounter and try to make something of it. 

As for the gay biker bits, I was not offended but it could have been funnier. I thought that &quot;Hells Anals&quot; was not too funny and would more likely get you stabbed by a real OB Hell&#039;s Angel than make any of us queers irate. 

Lots of queers, myself included, eschew anal sex as either too risky, kind of gross or a bit of both. I guess I don&#039;t like being gay being associated with a particular bodily attraction. I love a nice ass as well as the next guy, but only the well muscled outside part, not the pipe that Taco Bell chalupas, chewed up fingernails and the remnants of jello shots routinely pass through. 
Yuck. 

It seems reductive and inaccurate to equate being queer, probably the best fate that could befall a person, with the word &quot;anal.&quot; What if you told me that you were taking your mother to dinner, and my response was &quot;how&#039;s that cunt doing?&quot; Would you want someone dear to you to be reduced to a crude term for va-jay-jay? Probably not. In the same way, many queers do not want their identity reduced to a crude or cheap joke, including my queer brothers who enjoy the filthiest forms of gay fun.

In the end, I don&#039;t think your piece was funny enough to keep the politically correct whiners in check. Also, in your non-apology apology, you should have admitted to those occasional gay adventures you had when you were younger (or made some up). As a bi-curious weirdo, LOL, you would have been far more sympathetic. Also, I can&#039;t believe you said &quot;Niggers don&#039;t tip!&quot; in your non-apology. I&#039;ll be stunned if you don&#039;t catch a ration of shit for that. Way to double down.

As for GLADD and the Gay &amp; Lesbian times, fuck them. They are not &quot;gay professionals&quot; but &quot;professional gays.&quot;  They are perpetually butt-hurt parasites, basically queer Al Sharptons. They don&#039;t help their communities so much as feed off our collective anger and frustration. When the gay ghetto ends, they&#039;ll have to get real jobs. May they all be castrated at a meth addicts private glory hole or be wrapped in cellophane, accidentally fucked to death at a Palm Springs orgy, and dumped in the desert. That shit happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your &#8220;Sons of Lame-Archy&#8221; column. Though it was not your best work, I agreed with your main points about the biker dudes being loud, stupid and full of unearned confidence. It also occurred to me that writing a weekly column must be a grind. Some weeks you just have to write about a momentary encounter and try to make something of it. </p>
<p>As for the gay biker bits, I was not offended but it could have been funnier. I thought that &#8220;Hells Anals&#8221; was not too funny and would more likely get you stabbed by a real OB Hell&#8217;s Angel than make any of us queers irate. </p>
<p>Lots of queers, myself included, eschew anal sex as either too risky, kind of gross or a bit of both. I guess I don&#8217;t like being gay being associated with a particular bodily attraction. I love a nice ass as well as the next guy, but only the well muscled outside part, not the pipe that Taco Bell chalupas, chewed up fingernails and the remnants of jello shots routinely pass through.<br />
Yuck. </p>
<p>It seems reductive and inaccurate to equate being queer, probably the best fate that could befall a person, with the word &#8220;anal.&#8221; What if you told me that you were taking your mother to dinner, and my response was &#8220;how&#8217;s that cunt doing?&#8221; Would you want someone dear to you to be reduced to a crude term for va-jay-jay? Probably not. In the same way, many queers do not want their identity reduced to a crude or cheap joke, including my queer brothers who enjoy the filthiest forms of gay fun.</p>
<p>In the end, I don&#8217;t think your piece was funny enough to keep the politically correct whiners in check. Also, in your non-apology apology, you should have admitted to those occasional gay adventures you had when you were younger (or made some up). As a bi-curious weirdo, LOL, you would have been far more sympathetic. Also, I can&#8217;t believe you said &#8220;Niggers don&#8217;t tip!&#8221; in your non-apology. I&#8217;ll be stunned if you don&#8217;t catch a ration of shit for that. Way to double down.</p>
<p>As for GLADD and the Gay &amp; Lesbian times, fuck them. They are not &#8220;gay professionals&#8221; but &#8220;professional gays.&#8221;  They are perpetually butt-hurt parasites, basically queer Al Sharptons. They don&#8217;t help their communities so much as feed off our collective anger and frustration. When the gay ghetto ends, they&#8217;ll have to get real jobs. May they all be castrated at a meth addicts private glory hole or be wrapped in cellophane, accidentally fucked to death at a Palm Springs orgy, and dumped in the desert. That shit happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Limo King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limo King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great response, Ed. Thank you for being you and standing up for what is right, and I dare say logical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great response, Ed. Thank you for being you and standing up for what is right, and I dare say logical.</p>
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		<title>By: edwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You caught that one, eh BD?</description>
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		<title>By: Lawrence of Jersey City</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence of Jersey City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect to free speech, satire and linguistic contortions that demonize ordinary English expression, let&#039;s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
However, and a big however, is that Lenny Bruce&#039;s message was poignantly appropriate to its time, not ours, unless it serves as a metaphor of sorts. The point is that so-called &quot;hateful speech,&quot; even if an arcane message of some social value lurks behind its offensive facade, is today self-defeating. We have come too far to turn back to the days of thinly-veiled stereotyping.  Pick up the fifty&#039;s &quot;Black Like Me&quot; again. Remember that many use the repetition of these canards and invectives as vindication of their own twisted views. While we may actually believe some stereotyping contains truth, the harm it causes, historically speaking, outweighs any literary utility. I will, however again, defend your right to speak freely, to the death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to free speech, satire and linguistic contortions that demonize ordinary English expression, let&#8217;s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.<br />
However, and a big however, is that Lenny Bruce&#8217;s message was poignantly appropriate to its time, not ours, unless it serves as a metaphor of sorts. The point is that so-called &#8220;hateful speech,&#8221; even if an arcane message of some social value lurks behind its offensive facade, is today self-defeating. We have come too far to turn back to the days of thinly-veiled stereotyping.  Pick up the fifty&#8217;s &#8220;Black Like Me&#8221; again. Remember that many use the repetition of these canards and invectives as vindication of their own twisted views. While we may actually believe some stereotyping contains truth, the harm it causes, historically speaking, outweighs any literary utility. I will, however again, defend your right to speak freely, to the death.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Spunky&quot;.

Awesome.</description>
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<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Babwe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Babwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 04:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based upon the imaginary union between Norm Crosby and Steven Wright, my whole family gave you a standing ovulation with bodies pledged for donation to science fiction.</description>
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		<title>By: JAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are getting so over-sensitive about homosexual word pairings, perhaps we should head &#039;em off at the pass and ban all yogurt called &quot;Fruit on the Bottom&quot;....</description>
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